And GSP out powered him and pummeled him for the next 3 minutes lol

@@patricklutherwinchester4260 You two dunces don't know what the hell you're watching. GSP beat him for sure but he didn't kick the crap out of him. He took him down and held him there while landing minimal damage. Karo on the other hand almost finished GSP in this fight.

@PJ Rivera "All that blood".... Haha! People with a random nosebleed have had more blood than that, and, yes, that kimura, not straight armbar, was close for a second. Karo reversed a takedown and if you think GSP wasn't shitting himself for a second, you're dumb. Go away, casual.

@PJ Rivera No, it started as a kimura attempt and then GSP straightened his arm out to avoid the submission. Karo was unable to transition to the straight armbar. The initial takedown reversal notwithstanding, it's a basic move taught to white belts in BJJ. Karo was not even close to getting KO'ed and your idea of how badly he was bleeding is comically exaggerated. Another dumb casual talking out of his ass. Go drink another beer.

@PJ Rivera I do know what I'm talking about considering I learned that combination Karo used ages ago. I never said GSP didn't earn the decision or that he didn't do anything effective against Karo. I just said he was indeed good and if you think otherwise you're a stupid casual. Nice job liking your own comments by the way.

Lmao 🤣

One judge actually gave Karo the first round.

He deserved it. He's a d bag.

Karo didn't really take any damage in round 1. He was smashed after that though

@Grant Archer lol he knows now😂

@Grant Archer also gsp on roids here.

@@DFS944 you're on roids

@@DFS944 you're on roids

@@DFS944 your mum's on roids

Kimura wasn't locked in? Where do people get this stuff?

@@huntertruth1139wasn’t locked but dude he was super close with 3,20 left in the 3rd. Look at Karos face you can see he literally thought he was gonna get GSP to tap

absolutely amazing awareness and strength, unbeleivable, even all of the roles

@@huntertruth1139can u do that ur self?

yes sir.

I don't think that GSP could've possibly been purely stronger than Karo at that point (or any point, I think). Karo was a grappling specialist, starting at age 8. To develop strength from all that resistence, from such a young age.. ooff. I assume he was much stronger than GSP. However, he lost decisively due to being an inferior MMA athlete.

@@anonymousreviewer169 I'd disagree. You only have so much strength potential I'd reckon gsps max potential strength is just higher than parisyans also gsp had a great training regime for strength and conditioning karo like Joe said never did any dedicated strength training

@@anonymousreviewer169 GSP is still strong as hell though, Chael Sonnen commented on his strength and he held country boy Hughes down.

@@anonymousreviewer169 No GSP was much stronger. Karo himself complained about it and said the only way GSP could have been that atrong was steroids. Karo seemed to ignore that he himself didn't do strength specific training and like you assumed that his years of grappling made him strong enough.

One submission was all Karo ever had

yea rogan was delusional the whole fight

nasomaz He wasn’t delusional. GSP almost got submitted after an opening but escaped and continued to beat the crap out of him.

Karo was tuning GSP up on the feet. Grease St Pierre had to dry hump him to win. Greasy St Pierre is the Lance Armstrong of MMA. An obvious juicer that didn’t get caught

Tay Tha Goon I can say he almost completely ignored GSP’s elbows. It’s just that you are too impressed by someone’s one skill that you forget to know his or her weakness as well.

Well Joe was right. That's exactly what Karo was trying to do. He almost got it done a couple of times in the 1st round and once in the 3rd.

I was a huge fan in the early days, I’ve been turned off by the thug image. GSP epitomizes the true martial arts ethos.

Fanboy can't spell epitome. Quelle surprise.

GSP was always classy, proved you don’t have to be a dick

@@goat-eyesthanks never had my own publisher bro

he would be a fantastic infantry soldier

@@heyfucko i think he´s too smart for this

True.

Maybe not basketball.

@@hhiippiittyy 🤣

Hes gotta be careful throwing punches or karo will submit him!

16:35 "he may have lost the first, but St.Pierre has a chance of winning 2 and 3." What fight is he watching, GSP has been smashing him this whole fight

9:00 superior grappler on his back the whole fight? C'mon Joe..

@@jrsixowfour8674 KHABIB NURMAGOMEDOV IS HURT, HES WOBBLY AND HURT

haha, he got an arm!!

🤣🤣🤣🤣

No he won't he retired already

@@thepatriot9969 it’s a joke

@@Twigz72 duh! I can't believe you fell for it.

I want GSP to come out of retirement and fight Usman. If he would do that and win, it would cement him as the greatest welterweight ever. I think he's already up there, but be keep saying Usman is better

I'm sorry that you have to live under Trudeau

It didn't seem at all close though.

GSP is the definition of a champion in every respect concievable. A stud a of a man!

​​@@jesseback3536 neither guy was super dominant. Karo almost had him a couple times with those kimura/straight armlocks

​@@Veritas-dq2hs that was 99% all gsp, 1% submission attempts

Hahaha

"He's totally calm. *DESPITE THE BLOOD, THE ELBOWS, THE PUNCHES."* ~ Joe Rogan Lmfao

Spot on and well said.

While true, it also made the sport more boring. Everybody adopted the same style more or less, and the best athlete or the biggest body frame simply wins.

​@@jotunblodtell me you're a casual without saying it.

@@jasunhamilton5008 That would be you. I watched the sport before it was popular. The fact you can't even understand what I said shows you're an NPC.

I remember being so happy when George knocked out Karos tooth.

you’re*

@Sultan Abdulhameed II Armenians never shut up about being Armenian for some reason

@@masrr3678 yeah like idek where tf Armenia is at? 😂😂😂

Everyone report Bill of Rights for spam. It’s like the 27th time he’s copy pasted that same thing in comments.

MASRR Because they’re proud of their culture and where they come from you fuck.

thank you for that. i love how GSP also blocks Karo from jumping over his body right after that.

The funny thing is that this was only GSP's 6th pro fight and he was only 22 years old at the time of this fight. So good at such a young age, this level of competition was almost like being fed to the wolves for his 1st UFC fight. Fighters do not get this type of experienced fighter in their 1st fight anymore. Unless you were a champ in a different organization like a Michael Chandler, but he had 26 pro fights before he first fought in the UFC.

These are the subtle things rogain always fails to see. Karo was dominated the entire fight in every way shape and form. Karo was way overhyped like many fighters and GSP displayed top level of talent. Such a class act too.

Lolol classic mazzigatti fuk imagine how many fights would have been different had this bozo not been the ref lol Fukin Steve

I wanted to headbutt my laptop

I hear he's still hiding from Brock.

I was thinking the same damn thing. Was the ref just crowd pleasing with that bullshit? GSP was pretty much throwing non-stop punches WHILE the ref tells them to keep busy, which GSP followed up with more punches and the ref stands them up. THAT WAS SOME CLASS A BULLSHIT!

The worst ref in the business

@johnnytork yeah but I've never seen commentators so reluctant to just stfu about the guy they thought was better before the fight happened, even as he's being dominated at his own game.

Gsp Was close enough to hear it and then he stopped for a second

@johnnytork Karo ran out of stamina, he did attempt submissions on GSP but he lacked strength

He is an a ss

I like how people keep bitching about this but its clear they've got no relevant information about the ufc roster right then either. Him saying all that shit provides background if you never heard of this guy that's not GSP which you may not have give this older video more context and comes off as lil professional for someone who essentially was fledgling standup comic, side character on a sitcom, and almost lifelong mixed martial artist himself at the time probably new at what he was doing. Sorry for the long text I know you didnt mean it in that way or werent salty like these other comment junkies lel but idk I think all the intended hate is because people are on his nuts ins a good/bad way or just either way.

Joe loves any bjj fighter

@@danterodriguez2610 not a bjj fighter lol. Judoka.

@@Firebrandt that is some word soup you wrote. I’ve read it three times and still have no clue what you’re saying

Right lol. Gsp dominated that fight. Out grappled, ground and pound. He just beat on him. They acted as if he would pull off a submission at anytime. George just rolled him over into his guard.

His first UFC fight. His 6th fight technically. Only 22. I'm the same age as Georges. Long time ago 2003 I believe.

I’m not sure it’s accurate to say that this fight derailed his illusions. In his next fight he won the WEC welterweight title and had the longest winning streak of his career. In fact he only lost one in the four years that followed this fight and that was a fight of the year battle. It seems like he was as successful after this fight as he ever was.

@Hog Nutz Multiple WEC guys became UFC champion though

@Hog Nutz doesn't matter. Back in the day, WEC wasn't the B League like Bellator was. They had just as much popularity as UFC did and were a serious contender to the UFC. Same as Strikeforce.

Expod wow listen to u go lol luv gsp but he was boring as Shiite

No idea what fight he was watching there...

He is without a doubt the worst.

Agreed, but it's also down pressure of the fans booing if the fighters are doing anything but boxing, it's so annoying, go to a boxing match if that's what you want to see.

Yeah I am genuinely confused by what happened at 17:17... I feel like that would not happen nowadays.

He had incredible strength

GSP is actually a tentpole to aspire in an MMA career, it's not surprising at all that Khabib looks up to him. GSP was a once in a generation talent. There have been so many dominant champs but what makes GSP special is that he beat his opponents in their own game! kinda like how the Valentina is doing today.. They'll be remembered for the rest of time.

@@1daboi100 Valentina's division is so weak, Strawweight is 10 times more deep, and GSPs era WW division is a hundred times more deep than even Strawweight. Only comparison between GSP and Valentina is their dominance but their resumes and skills are worlds apart.

@@FirstCitizenXIV Even when Valentina was fighting BW she was still dominating everyone except Nunes, and even those were close fights. She beat the current champion of that division handily as well. She may fight in a shallow division but her dominance based on her skill level is still unquestionable.

@j jhon you're obviously not a martial artist or fighter bruv, how many said that and got Dominated like they meant nothing? Khabib Talks the talk and simultaneously chokes you out while he walks, no fighter in the ufc or any other decent promotion can be called cowards dude, they fight... Do you? And I don't mean no slap yo cousin in the back yard coz your older and he's smaller...

Maxthekillbot Lmao did you not see how Karo almost broke gsps arm in the third?

@@johnhugon67 which fight was this?

Is that supposed to be a Nate Diaz quote 🤔

Young Nate diaz... tuf season 5

@Dude yeah, but kinda faintly remember Diaz saying this to Karo since Karo kept fucking with him.

This made me bust out laughing 😂

Lol

you new to Mazzegati? He was a special kinda ref

Damn no wonder why this guy got banned from refing UFC fights ever again...

Yeah I was fucking floored by that. @ 17:17

That ain't saying much.

Anything is....

The funniest things are not planned.

He literally was sucking his balls.

Karo is going to this and Karo is going to do that. What a shitty commentator!

Glad I’m not the only one that thought that

Ba Doai reported

Joe was in love with all the Armenian fighters from north hollywood back then

how the fuck did Joe Rogan get this gig? He is such a waste

hes a prick tho. I remember him in the ultimate fighter series, he was a total asshole and tried to bully the new up and coming fighters, one of whom was none other than nate diaz, who stood up to him.

@@ronyeahright9536 you saw that one single scene where he messes with diaz and are trying to make a huge story out of it. are you sure you're not the prick?

@@MyRealName ......wow, someone is butthurt. Are you sure you're not his gay lover?

Ya, that's what stood out to me as he was literally dominated every second. Unless ya count his weak, hopeless submission(not normally weak but weak against GSP)attempts from his back as his advantage he doesn't win another second of this fight. If there'd not been so much hype around Karo, Georges would've finished him. I think he played it a bit safe just to respect Karo's submission game. Karo was a total freak in strength but GSP ushered in the new era of the perfectly well rounded, super athletic, smart fighter who took strength at WW to a whole new level. JUst imagine packing the absolute most humanly possible strength and athleticism into a 5ft10 190 pound body(fight night) with 6% bf? Anyone who's that size and that lean is gonna be extremely strong but take that strength and athleticism and conditioning to the highest possible degree(for fighting at the time)possible and ya have GSP. He'd have felt harder and more smothering than a boa constrictor back then. Like a male gymnast instead devoted to unarmed combat. Crazy strong.

What is this "Radio" you speak of? New tech?

“Joe had both nuts in his mouth the whole fight”: That’s the funniest shit I’ve heard (read)in a while; I started to laugh out loud and aspirated on my coffee!

Joe was correct. Karo's mental health problems completely derailed his promising career.

Karo was a legit contender

Hoe Rogan*

@kommisar so did he

Mental issues and drug addiction is a bitch. Dude is wasted potential.

Lol

Onix Junes fur real

Yeah, legend of bouncin' up n down of the canvas

Hahahaha i had to play it back. Mike diiid call him a GRAPPER Lol

@@modifiedprogramjam4830 I had to play it back and pause few times just to comprehend. 🤔

That was great defense by GSP. That modified kimura/Sumi gashi is a go to no gi/self defense move for us Judoka.

...said in a French Canadian accent

Saeed Ibby I see holes in his commentary

I am not impressed with George's codpiece.

Imprezzed

If he did it over again now he'd be praising GSP

Perhaps...but Anderson Silva has the best UFC debut ever, maybe

@@Spontaneous72 Justin Gaethje had the best debut fight but Silva's performance was probably the best debut, right on

@Bo Mal Patriote Karo was like 22. Not exactly a veteran either

@@walidb123 veteran not only relates to age lmao. ..he is 18-2. That's 20 fights sounds like veteran in experience to me

“Toughest UFC DEBUT” madness😂😂 Patrick Cummings v Daniel Cormier Darrell Horcher v Khabib Priscila Cachoeira v Valentina Shevchenko Joe Soto v TJ Dillashaw Brick ales at v Frank Mir Rhys McKee vs Khamzat Chimaev I could go on and on.

Lolol

Joe: "Karo's looks like he's taking a nap" Me: oh yeah, looks like he's out cold

LMAOOO

Being on the bottom actually provides more scenarios where you can get a submission and it is pretty advantageous if you know what you are doing.

Smokey McGee yes but if you aren’t doing damage or finishing a submission it won’t win rounds. I love playing from my guard but that doesn’t mean I would elect to take the bottom position with a strong wrestler on top of me throwing punches.

13:30 “he looks clam” hahaha

@D that's called nostalgia

Classic UFC had flavour

Yeah it was way better back then the music the feeling the theme of gladiators #EPIC UFC

@D No fucking way, the sport of mixed martial arts has really evolved and it's way better now than back in the day and it's still evolving. You are just nostalgic.

@@illmatic9096 Totally. Of course the fighters evolve. But it's become a bit, corporate bland and safe. I used to hate Goldberg, but he had more of a repore with Joe than anyone since. And his always needing correcting by Joe was pretty funny

Damn right! My favorite fighter of all time in and out of the octagon! A class act!

Nothing unfortunate about anything in George’s career that I can see ✌️

Who knows if it was unfortunate, he may never have become the fighter we know today without that loss.

what title shot was that one? against who?

@@carlsworldofwisewords8907 The timing was unfortunate and really illustrated what a mess the UFC was at that time. But I did acknowledge that the loss created a more driven fighter in GSP

@@stultorumjunior the 1st Matt Hughes fight.

That guy is a moron, 18:50 "St-Pierre with a back slip"??

politode11 that moron is Goldie... lol and yes... he’s a DB

@@politode11 i believe he was about to say "back flip" then GSP slipped, so he said "slip" , as joe rogan said "he almost hurt himself there"

4:40 Catch "wrastling"

The greatest.

At that time in mma, karate was still seen as a complete joke because of how badly its practitioners did in early ufc. It wasn't til he and Machida really broke out, that it gained respect again

@@buzzkill808raven2 Yeah it was,over Here. Meanwhile the Red Devil dudes and VARIOUS European Vale Tudo's had many TRADITIONAL striking arts competing and winning. I was always an INTERNATIONAL fan so I knew the UFC'S Wrestling and Jits is all" NARRATIVE was false as "fork" and the "striking wave" would come here too.

@@bronzetiger3837 Yeah even when I first saw ufc 1 and 2 I was like 'these karate guys look like washed up truckers', not an actual representation of a well rounded, healthy karate practitioner

@@buzzkill808raven2 Well said😂"Truckers "for sure LOL I always tell people that if a practitioner can't demonstrate a certain level of skill pertaining to THAT art,then He doesn't "REPRESENT " that art. For a while we were having Collegiate Champs and WRESTLING medalists going against guys who probably weren't even the Best in their Dojo.I remember thinking back in those"dark days","I Wish the TOP Karate,Kung Fu,Kickboxing, Muay thai,Silat and Other Organizations would send their best" to stop this grappling madness 🤣😂.....tough times for more TRADITIONAL systems back then🙄...........But it got better; From GSP and the Machida Brothers with their Karate based skills,to CUNG LE and Pettis with their Kungfu and Tae Kwon do kicking combos and REAL Kickboxers Maurice Smith and Mirko Cro Cop,ALL come from TRADITIONAL styles and USE many of those TECHNIQUES if one knows where to look😏.......There are STILL some valid systems with good stuff in them,as before we just have to WAIT for more open minded and SKILLED practitioners to get interested.....KUDOS To Connor McG,Barboza,Makdessi, MVP, ALDO and Early pioneers like Igor V, Russian Red Devil fight team, Chute Boxe and even UFC Kenpo/Karate/Kung fu fighter KEITH HACKNEY ,who went in with just his TRADITIONAL style and BEAT A JUDOKA AND A +300 lb Sumo(no gloves) !!....He was also the first striker to give ROYCE SOME TROUBLE 🤔🤔....I think these internet trolls that trash TRADITIONAL styles Always forget just HOW good he had to be to just "survive" in those days.

Because of all the new fans who didn't watch the UFC back when Karo was fighting. They just watch TUF highlights on KZbin.

Karo was legit badass

justin perry yea he looked real badass getting mauled by GSP 😂

Daniel Alvarez yea getting beat by gsp is really embarrassing...idiot

justin perry not saying its embarrassing but he doesnt look very badass getting his ass beat

Not as good as GSP

@@Pusfilthgrapper

Debatable.....you could say best welterweight but all MMA is a stretch.

@Hammerschlägen M meh

Damn right never got popped for roids like Silva or Jones an always a decent dude

Jon Jones

@@teamkhabib7217 hes a cheater.

Mikes such a goofy idiot. I miss him.

That French poutine will do that to a guy

@@chrishayes5755 Only because you were forced to listen to his bullshit... no thank you, I'd rather listen to an actual ex fighter like Dom or Faber or any NUMBER of other talented fighters or ex fighters... With the absolute exception of Conor...he talks enough fucking shit as it is the last thing we need is that nugget on the megaphone.

I literally have no recollection posting this or even watching this 😅

Amazing lol

It isn’t eazy believe me.

@@rickyvandusen1744 sarcasm?

@@palmerprod I dk why but it seemed like he thought you were being sarcastic. Gsp haters feel like he's a lay and pray but the dudes jab is top notch and of course the superman punch

@@Lkom24 compared to earlier fights , he contstantly improved in all aspects, especially his striking.

yup. I can see him holding belts

Adam no doubt bruh. 👍🏼

Yuup indeed, real promising fighter for sure, I can see him being champion one day😀

He became a double champ. Casuals piss me off 🤦🏻‍♂️

Samuel Carrillo relax bro, we’re being sarcastic. 👌🏼

When the ref doesn't know anything about ground game.

Steve mazaggati was a terrible ref im glad he doesnt ref anymore

He was the worst

@D it is while you're getting ragdolled in the process

@D Ground and pound...is grappling.

@Steve Jobs Did you watch the fight? He was cut at the end of the second!

@Steve Jobs 2:20

Can’t even read this comment without saying it in George’s accent 😂

To be fair if you don’t know much of anything about a guy as a fighter compared to what you know. You will pick what you know. Especially if they are a “master grappler”

Oops, someone else took it....

@@joemarshall4226 some white dude name justin beat him up

All these tony jokes are over

Tony has never had a belt

Tony: Who the fuck is that guy?

David Lee yeah haha

Yea but nate was being mad chill he kept pushing nate he's a cocky asshole

He also beat Nick Diaz

Bill of Rights Russia.....is that you???

@David lol so butthurt. he BEAT Nick diaz. not the first one anyways.

Haha still miss Goldie in the ufc

@Alyssa's Dad Thx

Joe always does that. He'll pick someone he really loves and just focus on that one person even when they are getting whooped.

Karo was a top 10 fighter in the division at the time. People forget about Karo because he fell off so quickly but at that time he was legit.

Rogan does that constantly, he's a very biased commentator especially when it comes to certain fighters.

Like Dana did to conor back then

Standard Joe Rogan... the jujitsu bias is real. He finally admitted to the damage thing once the fight was nearing an end

@@shawnwimberly9294 Exactly. Even Rampage Jackson called out Joe Rogan on obviously favoring Jiu Jitsu based MMA fighters.

he did good against gsp. better than most.

@@mopiking4411 He survived GSP you mean. He didn't do good. He got out struck,outlanded, taken down at will, beat up, etc. A little submission attempt is not good enough bro. GSP won and GSP would have won 100/100 times.

@@shawnwimberly9294 he was a judoka not a BJJ practitioner, and he wasn’t saying that for nothing, Karo was a phenomenal grappler

Because he had a fucking ego and an attitude. He was an exciting fighter, but a piece of shit as a person.

Its surprised how Joe was saying Karo looked calm on his back while GSP was smeshing the whole time

13:44 that "go easy on me dude i know you're future hall of fame" look

Karlos lol

Karlos 😂

Very true, fighters today at that age are very sloppy and not very technical

@@atruebmf i think the problem is, while most young fighters have potential, everyone puts so much unnecessary pressure and expectations on them to take over after the previous legends that it gets to them , well atlesst some.

Along with Dana trying to play favorites and Market some as his next big cash cow.

@@atruebmf that's entirely the opposite of the truth. The youngest fighters today would DESTROY the top 10 from 20 years ago. The fact is that the sport has evolved to the point where everyone is getting similarly excellent training and the "up and coming" fighters don't have an edge in development over the current roster, as well as the fact that MMA is now so popular that basically everyone in the sport is a freak athlete.

@@thexbigxgreen it’s just doping.. i hate to be that guy but most natural humans dont physically peak until 28-34, im talking about muscle maturity, facial structure, vascularity, athleticism.. as soon as USADA, WADA and understanding/exposing PEDs became mainstream “suddenly” everyone stopped being this jacked and matured at 21-22.. look at the roster nowadays, with a few exceptions everyone across the board dropped down 2 weight classes (bantamweight and featherweight suddenly has 5”10 people competing as opposed to 5”10 being the norm for 185 and above) and most champions are peaking later.. there are anomalies to both eras of course but just consider what i wrote here and maybe you will agree.

Joe still is biased against GSP. He was calling Woodley WW GOAT for fucks sake.

WAS????

Actually I think he's right. I love GSP but as we can see at the beginning of the fight GSP ain't faster or technically superior than Karo. The way he's getting out of that kimura is simply because he's stronger physically. That's kind of frustrating for Karo. Reminds the Nick Diaz fight. GSP is way bigger and stronger.

@@julienjulien6519 where do I start.. GSP was not just faster, not just a better wrestler, not just a 100 times superior striker. But GSP controlled every second of that fight, Karo couldn't get any offense going whatsoever from the closed guard, and that has nothing to do with strength if you know what you're doing you can't get cuaght in the guard,(there's a method to ground and pound). GSP showed showed great control and understanding in every position the only time he used toughness is when he survived the straight arm lock at the end. So yes joe wasn't seeing what GSP was doing.

@@shojo8708 I totally disagree with you joe is a striker first and foremost, he came to the UFC as a takwando black belt with kickboxing experience, so he appreciates the stand up more than anyone, and the only black guy that he (many people) call athletic is tyron woodly (and nganu/Romero) but that's because they are super athletic with extraordinary power and huge muscles muscles, that's not racism that's just being objective, and if he was such a racist why would he say that tyron is the greatest welterweight when GSP a white guy is the best welterweight in most people's opinions?

Legend?😂

@@bidenthepotato9411 Yup. Nobody had better Judo throws in the sport until this day.

Yes

Bro Karo was already strong af, is just that prime GSP was prime GSP

@@aegisreflector1239 this was GSP debut not prime

Fighters were so much better back then than today. 2007-2012 were the golden years of MMA.

@@carter3369 I'm not sure if those were the golden years, but that period of time does seem to be when mma became much more mainstream. I remember when Chuck Liddell went on Dancing with the Stars in 2009, one of the reasons Dana White promoted that, was because he also saw it as an opportunity to give mma more exposure to the mainstream ABC network audience. That time period also seems to be the height of non-athletic dudes wearing Affliction, Von Dutch, and Ed Hardy "I'm a major douchebag wanna-be" t-shirts.